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About copies & plastic replicas

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Author: Erik Thomas Thursday, 19 March 2015

dear Editor

I am not trying to be critical, but I see the nose of the camel under the tent here. 
Pre war specials are of course welcome anywhere at any time. This would be something that is comprised of pre war parts, but intended to run in races, hillclimbs, or whatever. There are endless expamples of these, some better than others, but most are pretty neat.  Reboded, re-engined, whatever.  Then there are tool room copies of pre war cars. The Bugatti T-35 replicas come to mind.  - those are true to pre war design, and are also in the "sprit" as the parts are interchangable with oroginals. 

The awful, American made copy in fiberglass of a Mercedes 500K or SSK with a chassis of a modern Ford and with a dashboard full of weird modern gages, plus an automatic trasmission is NOT something you should alllow to be advertised, or sold or even shown on this fine web site. Sadly, these advertisements  seem to be appearing in ever increasing frequency. Now, there are old bastards like me who can spot a fake "Across the crowded dance floor at El Morroco" - Tom Cahill -  However, I do fear others less jaded and perhaps younger are not so keen on the difference.  Thus, I think these spurius and misleading copy cat vehicles should be banned.  Well, really crushed, or taken out to sea and dumped into really deep water. 
But more importanly, these are NOT pre war cars.

Best,   Erik Thomas 


answer by Editor:

Dear Erik,

This is not the first time we get this question. It comes up one or two times every year. When we were living in an ideal world this would be a perfect idea. Draw a clear line between the bad cars and the good cars and ready, Great ! Unfortunately we do not live in an ideal world. Some cars are easy recognisable as replicas, fakes, bitsas of whatever you want to name them. Others are much more hard to recognise. By taking out or refusing the most obvious examples, we would give the impression that all remaining cars are ok. Which is not the case. You need to know what you're doing when you are buying cars like these. These are no KIAs, Hyundays, Toyotas or whatever you can get with 12 years guarantee. These are specialty vehicles. Before buying one, become an expert, hire an expert, or get hurt ! 
On the other hand, if you want to travel the world and inspect personally all cars advertised here to prevent wrong cars to be advertised, you are most welcome. 

be wise, take care

Joris Bergsma 








   

a Veteran or Vintage Motorcycle ?

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Author: Joris Bergsma Wednesday, 11 February 2015

Dear Editor,

I notice you include what are widely regarded as veteran motorcycles as vintage. The accepted date of veterans in the motorcycle world is pre 1915.
I appreciate you are Prewarcar, and pre 1905 is the car cut off date. The Sunbeam motorcycle Club Pioneer Certification scheme and eligibility for their Pioneer Run is the normally accepted definitive arbiter. Incidentally the Pioneer Run from Epsom Downs to Madeira Drive, Brighton is on Sunday March 22nd this year.

Thanks for a most enjoyable site
Regards

John Joseph

answer: 

Dear John, 

Thank you very much for sending your advise. I must confess this is new to me, one learns every day.  Unfortunately the basis of this kind of category issue has to do with  complex ( and costly ) database arrangements. I wish it was as simple as taking up a spanner and exchange a few nuts & bolts under the bonnet of this website. For the moment all we can do is show your letter here. Alternatively we can say no to all motorbikes as we cannot offer them the correct category name... Or possibly you can find us a small sponsor who would like to show his name in these columns and take responsibility for some software development. 

the Editor 
   

Steady Barker 1920 - 2015

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Author: Joris Bergsma Monday, 09 February 2015

Following on from the very sad news that you posted about Stijnus Schotte I don't know whether you are aware that another old stalwart and friend of the old car world Ronald 'Steady' Barker passed away at the end of January. Many of Prewarcar.com Members will no doubt remember Steady's last page articles in the Automobile. He always had a way with words and was one of the last of the reporters who tested for Magazines. I had the honour of knowing Steady for many years through repairing various magnetos or him just calling for a chat. I took Steady to a funeral many years ago for an ex -President of the VCC in a Bentley T1 I had at the time. For 4 hours we had Steady's bad jokes and a whole raft of memories of his times with Alec Issigonis and Lawrence Pomeroy. I remember saying to Steady that all these people that had been friends of his I could only read about in books. He thought for a moment the muttered "I suppose you're right my boy". Steady was 94 when he passed away but had lived life to the full even going wingwalking on his 70th birthday. It was a privilege to know Steady and to have had the pleasure of his company for many hours and to hear the stories others would have paid money to hear.

Andy Watt

   

1933 Austin 7 TV 9935

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Author: Graham Coulson Sunday, 25 January 2015

I have been looking for my old car for ages but with no luck. The reg is TV 9935 1933, when i had it it was peacock blue and i had restored all of it. This car was owned by the person that set up and started the Prewar Austin 7 Club and was the first car to be registered in it. Has anybody seen this car or do you know where it is ???.

Thanks

Lord Graham Coulson
   

The sad demise of an Armstrong Siddeley Saloon.

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Author: Peter Saturday, 03 January 2015

Dear Editor,

In most respects your 'Editors Choice' for the 3rd January 2015  could not have been more unfortunate, especially when related to the comments expressed in Mr. Mawer's letter of 25th March 2014.
The car described as a 'Armstrong Siddeley 20HP Burlington Sports' was one of several 20HP cars co-owned by me in the 1960's to 1980's. At the time it was complete in every detail and still carried its very interesting and unique BURLINGTON (this being the coach-building arm of Armstrong-Siddeley)  Sports Saloon body. The only part of the car requiring any real work to restore were the wings and running-boards which - and I do remember correctly -  had been badly repaired at some point. The car was completely restorable and probably represented the only survivor of its particular body style for its year.
The car represented in the advert however, bears no relationship to either any car ever manufactured by Armstrong-Siddeley or, for that matter, to any car that would have been constructed by anyone who understood the nature of motor vehicles and car body design in 1933 (experimental cars possibly excepted. I know motoring history and there are always some oddities). Armstrongs did actually make a few competition cars but they looked nothing like that.
I used to keep my peace on most matters related to the despoilement of cars by the ignorant, but I have become increasingly offended by the destruction of perfectly restorable cars to produce traversties of what real Vintage and Post-Vintage sports cars were. I say this in the knowledge that a number of Siddeley Specials, an even rearer beast, have been destroyed - even though complete and very restorable - to make similarly bodied 'Specials' (dare one call them that? I would not!).
I would go on, but I think that I had better stop before I grind my teeth to powder.

Yours most sincerely, Peter Maguire.


note of editor:
would you be so kind to provide us with one or more photos of your Burlington Sports Saloon
   

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