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About Quiz # 206 1925/26 Pierce Arrow
We wrote "this make of car will be remembered more for its headlights than anything else". Most entries had it right: Pierce Arrow. After that some trouble occurred as your editor typed 'thirties' instead of 'twenties'. Once more one can learn, don't believe all what is printed. The question here is and will always be: "What IS It?" and not "What are we writing about?" The written hints are meant as a help and possibly can contain faulty details. (Dick Trenk, thnx for correcting us!) Anyway the hints made three competors (Keith Canouse, Ivan Saxton and (jury) Mark Dawber) decide this must be the Model 80, the first Pierce Arrow with four wheel breaks. We decided the answer by Ivan Saxton is the best: "The picture clearly identifies Pierce Arrow Model 80, 1924-27. Only numbers would identify exact age. Early cars had plain H-section conrods, later had oil feed hole through the web to the gudgeon pin. Some of the last period had duralumin rods, aluminium pistons and cylinder head. It is an open body. Pierce made all bodies on this chassis, mostly with aluminium panels. They made the engines. All else was proprietry manufacture. Front brakes(*) were IF patent, and they were an early user of the Rickardo turbulence head and Lanchester damper. Waltham speedo was delicate air-drive. I gave away two (of those) cars....(*)First model P-A with front brakes may be questionable. Hendry says they were optional on Series 33 from Feb 1924."
Ivan, we'll be happy to give you one of our T-shirts ! (photos Thomas Edfors)
Ivan saxton knows these cars too well, he gave away... two(!) of these: "I dont have photos because I never had a camera when I got them, and never restored them. You may wonder why I gave away those model 80's. When I gave the first I had a 314 Cadillac, Stutz, and Roamer Duesenberg. When I gave away the other I had also Lancias, 12/16 Sunbeam, Napier, IF, Mercers, A Duesenberg, 8 cyl Pierce and Auburns, Type 156 cuff-valve Peugeot, and 3rd series Twin Six Packard. Why would I need a detacheable flat head six?...."
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Friday, 06 July 2007
We wrote "this make of car will be remembered more for its headlights than anything else". Most entries had it right: Pierce Arrow. After that some trouble occurred as your editor typed 'thirties' instead of 'twenties'. Once more one can learn, don't believe all what is printed. The question here is and will always be: "What IS It?" and not "What are we writing about?" The written hints are meant as a help and possibly can contain faulty details. (Dick Trenk, thnx for correcting us!) Anyway the hints made three competors (Keith Canouse, Ivan Saxton and (jury) Mark Dawber) decide this must be the Model 80, the first Pierce Arrow with four wheel breaks. We decided the answer by Ivan Saxton is the best: "The picture clearly identifies Pierce Arrow Model 80, 1924-27. Only numbers would identify exact age. Early cars had plain H-section conrods, later had oil feed hole through the web to the gudgeon pin. Some of the last period had duralumin rods, aluminium pistons and cylinder head. It is an open body. Pierce made all bodies on this chassis, mostly with aluminium panels. They made the engines. All else was proprietry manufacture. Front brakes(*) were IF patent, and they were an early user of the Rickardo turbulence head and Lanchester damper. Waltham speedo was delicate air-drive. I gave away two (of those) cars....(*)First model P-A with front brakes may be questionable. Hendry says they were optional on Series 33 from Feb 1924." 
