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About quiz # 234: 1884 Delamare-Deboutteville

These are the patent drawings of a French motorcar. The patent was signed off at 12 February 1884 making this as far as we know the oldest patented motorcar with combustion engine. (see the patent #160267 ; click). In the past and also during this quiz week there's been a lot of turmoil about this automobile. Whether it ever existed in the 'the flesh'? Did it ever run? Did it break down within thirty meters? Did it break in two parts during the test run? All totally irrelevant. Leonardo da Vinci's helicopter never flew! Still, being the very first or being among the very first, that is relevant! With a 1884 patent you have mighty fine papers in that discussion! Anyway we had no less than ten competitors & jury members who produced the right name: John Baker, Bernard Hunault, Bruno Estibals, Phil Cordery, Fredi Vollenweider, Dick Trenk, Ivo Steentjes, Henk Visscher, Szczepan Kolaczek, Malcolm Jeal. In the end we decided that the winner should be the man who wrote about the patent rather than about the car: congratulations to Jonathan Baker who reached jury membership after years and years of loyal quiz competition. Jonathan Baker's answer: "On 12th. February 1884 Edouard Delamare-Deboutteville and Leon Malandin patented the design for this vehicle under French patent number 160267. It was claimed that a vehicle to this design had run under its own power early in 1884, but it is also reported that the chassis broke in two on this run. To celebrate the centenary of the event, car shows were organised in France in 1984 under the title "100 ANS D'AUTOMOBILE FRANCAISE". Several replicas of the Delamare-Deboutteville were constructed for these celebrations."

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Bart Oosterling NL
Bas de Voogd / Rutger Booy NL team
Bob Swanson USA Sports Cars & Racing Cars
Carleton Hughes USA
Ced Pearce South-Africa Ford & Cord
Chris Paulsen USA Brass Era (pre-1916) cars
David Green NZ
Dick Trenk (deceased 2010) USA US cars
Dominique Barbault F French Cars
Don Edwards USA US Classics
Eduard Hattuma NL
Fons Alkemade NL French automobiles
Frans Vrijaldenhoven NL Dutch Automobile Historian
Fried Stol NL
Hans Compter NZ
Harry Schley Germany
Henk Visscher NL Firsts in Car Industry
Ian Hayhurst Canada pre-1916 autos / early Mopar
Ingo Jost Germany German Cars
James Helms USA
João Pedro Gazineu Brazil
John Barringer UK
Jon Baker Australia
José A. Gómez Argentina
Josef Kubista CZ
Joseph P. McCormick USA
Kit Foster USA US cars 1920-1960, Stanley Steamers
Kjetil Langsaether Norway
Lars-Göran Lindgren S brass era cars
Luke Chennel USA
Marc Fellman Australia
Mark Dawber NZ
Mike Clark GB Vintage Cars.
Mike Tebbett UK cyclecars
Mike Turner USA
Nicolas Boissier France
Paul Linster L French & Britsh sports cars
Peter Ransom Australia
Radu Comsa Romania
Raul Valkila Finland
Reg Harris Australia Citroën and English cars
Robb Stewart USA early racing and sports cars
Robbie Marenzi Argentina
Roger Fields USA
Rutger Booy / Bas de Voogd NL team
Stuart Penketh Thailand
Theo Castricum NL US cars
Tom Chaney USA
Verner Johnson DK