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About Quiz #363 : 1936 Fiat 1500 Berlina


1936 fiat_model_1500_six_cylinder_berlina_470

No Hupmobile indeed! Owner Alexander Vonow pulled a leg to us all by presenting one of his own photos as a mystery interior some time ago. Helped with this knowledge and with addding a few smaller hints, now sudxdenly 'everybody' knows. Well everybody.... sorry to say that no less than six competitors took the wrong turn by choosing Lancia Aprilia. And sorry, it's no Steyr-Daimler-Puch either. In fact it is the Fiat 1500 priced in large numbers from 1935 to 1950, this being a 1936 specimen. Nine competitors were correct in naming the Fiat 1500, so as often it came down to judging the details to point out a winner.

Without doubt the answer by Christoph Röhrs was most substantial: " (...) a pillarless 4-door saloon car of the early streamline era. It´s a FIAT 1500, presented in 1935 at the Motor Show in Milan. The car was designed by the young Dante Giacosa and was the first car tested in a wind tunnel. They are built with slight changes until 1950, this one here is presumably an early model with the rope from the armrest tube in order to close the door. The car has a 6-cyl. 1493ccm 45 PS OHV engine and an interesting front axle." Congratulations Christoph, please send us mailing address and shirt size. Next week a new pre-war challenge. Today a new postwar quiz.

(photos Alexander Vonow)

Comments 

 
#6 2014-02-26 10:38
Dear Richard and Graham
As far as Vintage Vehicles concerns I belief you live in a Paradise in GB!
I agree with you about the modern safety details on a prewar car; HOWEVER the SWISS authorities accept no more hand signals from a closed car for decades. The same is reality with only one tail light, mirrors and many more rules which have to be followed strictly. (.. so not really shame on me…)
I imported two prewar Alfas from England to Switzerland. I don’t want to bother you with all the hurdles.
So my friends, be happy with your practice in your country.
Regards
Alexander
 
 
#5 2014-02-17 18:02
A rare car, there was one at the scrap yard at Berne (Kaufdorf) What happened to it? Did it get saved?
My early d/hd.car is designated just "1500" without the "A".
My 1937 Berlina is 1500/6A and my 1948 is 1500D with wishbone front suspension, which I thought came later with 1500E designation.
There are two other early cars like the
one of Mr. Vonow in UK.
 
 
#4 2014-02-17 15:23
Congratulation to Christoph Röhrs.
You have a remarkable knowledge!!
Do you own such a FIAT 1500 or do you know of anybody who owns one?
Best regards
Alexander Vonow
 
 
#3 2014-02-16 14:24
Sorry, but there are some mistakes here.
First at all, the Fiat 6C1500 was designed by Revelli de Beaumont, who developed the first 3 models (A/B/C) from 1935 to 1940.
Giacosa developed the D model only, produced from 1948 to 1950.
Stating that this car was the first tested in a wind tunnel is fake, because there weren't wind tunnels in Turin before the WWII. A scale model was tested by the aeronautical department of the Turin engineering school where was a fluxes simulator.
 
 
#2 Graham Button 2014-02-15 19:56
I'm afraid I have to agree with Richard,
one of my pet hates is inappropriate out of period light units and external mirrors fitted to elderly vehicles, almost as bad as the removal of original registration numbers on British vehicles.
In nearly fifty years I have never had a problem using hand signals or traficators or both.
Graham.
 
 
#1 2014-02-15 10:58
Lovely detailing on this car viz. door handles, shame about the Jaguar rear lights though.
 

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