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About Quiz #386: Protos-Siemens-Schuckert

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Sorry it is no Steyer, no Puch and no Alfa Romeo. The famous international rally to which we referred was of course the New-York to Paris of 1908 (see the car). No less than seven competitors produced the Make Protos. When you click the photo you'll that the idea behind quiz 386 was an advert of the Moll company (motorcars & motor-cycles) in Holland.  

No less than seven competitors and jurymembers identified the car as a Protos C type. Martin Reichmayr,  Moritz, Bernard Correge,  Fedor, Hugo Modderman  and jury members Ingo Jost, Fritz Hegeman and Ronnie Marenzi.  Only jurymember Robbie had the guts to add a single year to this car: 1919 and he must be pretty close as the advert apeared in December 1922.  The coachwork is a T4 as mentioned by Hugo Modderman, while at the same time is it interesting to learn that Heinzgerd Schott claims that the body is presumably made by Karl Weinberger from Munich who did many Protos cars. In the end we decided to honour Mr. Moritz who came up withe the right answer, plus the fact that the V-shape radiator is an hommage to Protos designer Ernst Valentin who before Protos also worked for Gobron-Brillié, Nagant,  Rex-Simplex and the Berliner Motorwagen Fabrik. Congratulations Moritz. We love to learn!

(quiz idea Gerard Brands)

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Jury Member Location Information

Bart Oosterling NL
Bas de Voogd / Rutger Booy NL team
Bob Swanson USA Sports Cars & Racing Cars
Carleton Hughes USA
Ced Pearce South-Africa Ford & Cord
Chris Paulsen USA Brass Era (pre-1916) cars
David Green NZ
Dick Trenk (deceased 2010) USA US cars
Dominique Barbault F French Cars
Don Edwards USA US Classics
Eduard Hattuma NL
Fons Alkemade NL French automobiles
Frans Vrijaldenhoven NL Dutch Automobile Historian
Fried Stol NL
Hans Compter NZ
Harry Schley Germany
Henk Visscher NL Firsts in Car Industry
Ian Hayhurst Canada pre-1916 autos / early Mopar
Ingo Jost Germany German Cars
James Helms USA
João Pedro Gazineu Brazil
John Barringer UK
John Robins UK
Jon Baker Australia
José A. Gómez Argentina
Josef Kubista CZ
Joseph P. McCormick USA
Kit Foster USA US cars 1920-1960, Stanley Steamers
Kjetil Langsaether Norway
Lars-Göran Lindgren S brass era cars
Luke Chennel USA
Marc Fellman Australia
Mark Dawber NZ
Mike Clark GB Vintage Cars.
Mike Tebbett UK cyclecars
Mike Turner USA
Nicolas Boissier France
Paul Linster L French & Britsh sports cars
Peter Ransom Australia
Richard Armstrong UK
Radu Comsa Romania
Raul Valkila Finland
Reg Harris Australia Citroën and English cars
Robb Stewart USA early racing and sports cars
Robbie Marenzi Argentina
Roger Fields USA
Rutger Booy / Bas de Voogd NL team
Stuart Penketh Thailand
Theo Castricum NL US cars
Tom Chaney USA
Verner Johnson DK