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About Quiz #389: 1909 Lane Model 15 or 1910 Model 20? No winner?


About Quiz #389: 1910 Lane model 20

When you read back the answers to last week's quiz you can only conclude that we must have ruined the weekend of jurymember Ariejan Bos. We wrote the quiz car was made in Pennsylvania, which should have been New York. This editorial slip of the pen probably made him plough his full library to find a brass era steamer looking like this yet made in Penna... Errare humanum est, Ariejan. Sorry!

To take out all misunderstanding, here is the makers plate of the fabulous Lane steamer which was subject of last week's quiz. A next problem is that we are not really 100% sure what the identity of the car is. Most competitors stat that we are looking at a 1909 Lane Model 15. Do they tap from sources of knowledge that we nor the owner have? Or are these experts quoting  from ill informed sources?  Very hard to say. Two facts are clear: the chassis number of the car is #2080. The 'object report' of the Henry Ford Museum which comes with the car states the wheelbase is 102-1/8 inches. We asked jurymember Stanley Steamer historian Kit Foster for help and he explains: "The chassis number doesn't help much. Grace Brigham's Serial Number Book has no listings for Lane. The company had built 500-some cars by 1909, and another 123 in 1910, so it's difficult to make sense out of #2080 in that context. I think the key is the wheelbase, measured by The Henry Ford as 102-1/8 inches. That's closest to the 103 quoted for the 1910 Model 20 in the Standard Catalog of American Cars." 

So basically we have to decide is the Standard Catalog wrong? Or are the other sources wrong? In other words? Is the motorcar depicted above a 'short wheel base' 103" 1909 Lane Model 15 or is it the 1910 Model 20 with 103" wheelbase as described in Beverley Rae Kimes Standard Catalog?  
Please send us your opinion in order to help decide who is winner.... if any.

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Bart Oosterling NL
Bas de Voogd / Rutger Booy NL team
Bob Swanson USA Sports Cars & Racing Cars
Carleton Hughes USA
Ced Pearce South-Africa Ford & Cord
Chris Paulsen USA Brass Era (pre-1916) cars
David Green NZ
Dick Trenk (deceased 2010) USA US cars
Dominique Barbault F French Cars
Don Edwards USA US Classics
Eduard Hattuma NL
Fons Alkemade NL French automobiles
Frans Vrijaldenhoven NL Dutch Automobile Historian
Fried Stol NL
Hans Compter NZ
Harry Schley Germany
Henk Visscher NL Firsts in Car Industry
Ian Hayhurst Canada pre-1916 autos / early Mopar
Ingo Jost Germany German Cars
James Helms USA
João Pedro Gazineu Brazil
John Barringer UK
John Robins UK
Jon Baker Australia
José A. Gómez Argentina
Josef Kubista CZ
Joseph P. McCormick USA
Kit Foster USA US cars 1920-1960, Stanley Steamers
Kjetil Langsaether Norway
Lars-Göran Lindgren S brass era cars
Luke Chennel USA
Marc Fellman Australia
Mark Dawber NZ
Mike Clark GB Vintage Cars.
Mike Tebbett UK cyclecars
Mike Turner USA
Nicolas Boissier France
Paul Linster L French & Britsh sports cars
Peter Ransom Australia
Richard Armstrong UK
Radu Comsa Romania
Raul Valkila Finland
Reg Harris Australia Citroën and English cars
Robb Stewart USA early racing and sports cars
Robbie Marenzi Argentina
Roger Fields USA
Rutger Booy / Bas de Voogd NL team
Stuart Penketh Thailand
Theo Castricum NL US cars
Tom Chaney USA
Verner Johnson DK