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What is it ? # 113 (UPDATE II: Salmson-ish... Lea Francis-ish.... Vulcan!)

UPDATE II: After earlier presumptions by Chris draper, Hans Compter & Michael Rose) that the chassis remains here are Lea Francis, a most definite answer came from 'LeaF' specialist David Smith, claiming the chassis defintiely is not Lea Francis. Most likely option..: Vulcan.
UPDATE: This appeared to be far more complex then we thought. A welmeant sorry for that, as this was not out intention! The trouble with a barnfind like this is, that one tends to think it was original when abandonnend. But why would anybody abandon a truly original vintage Salmson? We didn't know this but, from the different answers we learned and from Salmson expert Chris Draper ("The Salmson Story") we learnt again. Anyway, almost all competitotrs came up with the right make Salsmon (based on the radiator cross plus alloy DOHC engine). As there is not really a history with the remains of this car we all had to judge from what we see. Wetook Chris Draper's advise who said that this cannot be a Salmson chassis! ("the front spring rear hanger is not Salmson, the coupling to the propshaft is "open" - no Salmson torque tube, no chassis crossmember, the rear springs have a shackel at the back - not Salmson." Bart Oosterling unconsciously was extremely correct, he didn't say a word about the chassis nor about the coachwork, only about the radiator and engine. He attributed the slightly V-shaped radiator to a D type Salmson. And the engine to a D type as well. So Bart didn't say it was a Salsmon 'car', and exactly that that made us decide to say he is winner. Congratulations! We hope ypou are not angry with us, it's just a game and we just try to make it interesting for you.

COMPETITION TEXT: It's a sports car. Ok, in slightly exhausted condition, but still the most intriguing heap of scrap (clic) which we have seen in months. It's a recent UK find and to the future owner it will bring many happy hours of tooling, fettling, greasing, machining, painting, babbitting, rewiring and - without any doubt - all other aspects of our hobby...in ample portions. Many of you will have no trouble naming the make of the car. Probably slightly more cumbersome is attributing the right type & year (dare to give it a guess). Even less simple it will prove to be which coachwork it once used to have. But the remaining doors may tell a clear story. We have our doubts with the instruments cluster, but you are the expert. We'll give you an extra day (!) for research for a change. We will judge answers by looking at 1. The Make 2. the Year 3. the Type 4. the Coachwork. Only the best competitor will win. (photosource 12 June auction (clic by Cheffins (UK); click for different perspective) - your answer must be in BEFORE Tuesday, June 1

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Bart Oosterling NL
Bas de Voogd / Rutger Booy NL team
Bob Swanson USA Sports Cars & Racing Cars
Carleton Hughes USA
Ced Pearce South-Africa Ford & Cord
Chris Paulsen USA Brass Era (pre-1916) cars
David Green NZ
Dick Trenk (deceased 2010) USA US cars
Dominique Barbault F French Cars
Don Edwards USA US Classics
Eduard Hattuma NL
Fons Alkemade NL French automobiles
Frans Vrijaldenhoven NL Dutch Automobile Historian
Fried Stol NL
Hans Compter NZ
Harry Schley Germany
Henk Visscher NL Firsts in Car Industry
Ian Hayhurst Canada pre-1916 autos / early Mopar
Ingo Jost Germany German Cars
James Helms USA
João Pedro Gazineu Brazil
John Barringer UK
Jon Baker Australia
José A. Gómez Argentina
Josef Kubista CZ
Joseph P. McCormick USA
Kit Foster USA US cars 1920-1960, Stanley Steamers
Kjetil Langsaether Norway
Lars-Göran Lindgren S brass era cars
Luke Chennel USA
Marc Fellman Australia
Mark Dawber NZ
Mike Clark GB Vintage Cars.
Mike Tebbett UK cyclecars
Mike Turner USA
Nicolas Boissier France
Paul Linster L French & Britsh sports cars
Peter Ransom Australia
Radu Comsa Romania
Raul Valkila Finland
Reg Harris Australia Citroën and English cars
Robb Stewart USA early racing and sports cars
Robbie Marenzi Argentina
Roger Fields USA
Rutger Booy / Bas de Voogd NL team
Stuart Penketh Thailand
Theo Castricum NL US cars
Tom Chaney USA
Verner Johnson DK