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What is it? # 139 (UPDATE: 1904 Walter)

Update: Only three competitors were prepared to risk their neck on this one. And yes it was far from simple.... But let's start with the nicest part; what would be an appropriate name for this carriage/tractor combination? Jury member Hans Compter came up with: '.... "cab-remorqueur". The word "cab" relates to the meaning of a taxi. A nice short word in the lower Germanic dialect, better known as English, would be "artic-coupe" or "artic-cab".'
Mark Dawber produced: "The trailer is mounted where the 'mother-in-law' seat would have been. Maybe the combination could be the 'in-laws caravan'. The whole family could remain hidden out of sight!"
Stuart Penketh writes: "Appropriate name : Since the carriage is a "Batchelor Brougham", most likely by Brewster (NY, close to the Trenton New Jersey home of the Roeblings, who would make the new Mercer), the name possibly should be the "Walter Motor Truck Batchelor Brougham Close Coupled Rig" .
This last one - by Stuart - being closest to the truth. A similar contraption in a 1914 cartoon was named "Extension Brougham".
Unfortunately for Stuart the name was the 'extra' question. With the first questions he came very, very close. But not as close as Mark Dawber who merciless claims his third win and a jury seat:
1. Walter (or Waltmobile).
2. 1903 - probably the 2 cylinder model.
3. Mercer
The car is known at the Larz Anderson Museum as being a 1904 Walter, a make that later evolved into Mercer. With 1903 Mark came close like nobody else. Congratulations!
(photo Larz Anderson Auto Museum) Earlier: It is sort of an open driver limousine. Not an electric one, by the way. In fact we are playing you tricks. We hid the engine for more impact. Click the photo and you'll know where the engine is, what doesn't mean that you what car it is instantly. It's one of those short lived smaller makes that later evolved in a wellknown make of sportscar... To study the basic set-up of the car click for more detail . We want to hear from you 1. the Make 2. the Year 3. the Make into which this make evolved as from 1910 4. (extra question) what would be an appropriate name for this coach/tractor combination? Only the best competitor will win the PreWarCar/ Roadmap gillet.
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Bart Oosterling NL
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Bob Swanson USA Sports Cars & Racing Cars
Carleton Hughes USA
Ced Pearce South-Africa Ford & Cord
Chris Paulsen USA Brass Era (pre-1916) cars
David Green NZ
Dick Trenk (deceased 2010) USA US cars
Dominique Barbault F French Cars
Don Edwards USA US Classics
Eduard Hattuma NL
Fons Alkemade NL French automobiles
Frans Vrijaldenhoven NL Dutch Automobile Historian
Fried Stol NL
Hans Compter NZ
Harry Schley Germany
Henk Visscher NL Firsts in Car Industry
Ian Hayhurst Canada pre-1916 autos / early Mopar
Ingo Jost Germany German Cars
James Helms USA
João Pedro Gazineu Brazil
John Barringer UK
Jon Baker Australia
José A. Gómez Argentina
Josef Kubista CZ
Joseph P. McCormick USA
Kit Foster USA US cars 1920-1960, Stanley Steamers
Kjetil Langsaether Norway
Lars-Göran Lindgren S brass era cars
Luke Chennel USA
Marc Fellman Australia
Mark Dawber NZ
Mike Clark GB Vintage Cars.
Mike Tebbett UK cyclecars
Mike Turner USA
Nicolas Boissier France
Paul Linster L French & Britsh sports cars
Peter Ransom Australia
Radu Comsa Romania
Raul Valkila Finland
Reg Harris Australia Citroën and English cars
Robb Stewart USA early racing and sports cars
Robbie Marenzi Argentina
Roger Fields USA
Rutger Booy / Bas de Voogd NL team
Stuart Penketh Thailand
Theo Castricum NL US cars
Tom Chaney USA
Verner Johnson DK