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About quiz #418: post-1920 TB Thompson Brothers Cyclecar.

Quiz last Saturday

The remains of a cyclecar shown in last week's Quiz 418 were not very easy to recognise. The big 'giveaway' in this case was of course the 'Brescia' like radiator. Long time visitors may remember the TB Radiator Mystery. We had loads of response back then, but it must be said that this earlier photo had the TB logo showing which is quite helpful... The project showing last week was photographed years ago by Michael Ware. He had to climb on top of the office in the Black Country Living Museum, in Dudley,UK. Quite possible it's gone now. And maybe even on wheels again! Who knows? 

We had four competitors who all came up with the correct make and lost of useful information. Including the wonderful postcard sent by competitor Luc 'tricycle' Rijckaert. Thanks a lot for sharing Luc! However neither Luc nor Robbie Marenzi, nor Graham Arrondelle are winners. These three gave good but general information regarding all TB cyclecars. While our question always is which specific car is pictured. Again the radiator was a giveaway. It is clearly not a fake but a watercooling radiator. So the TB project must have had the Blackburn or British Anzani engine. So it was built in or after 1921. Only Anders Svenfelt was courageous enough to pinpoint the car based on this simple feature. By doing so he is not only winner of the quiz but also a new jurymember. This was his third win since 2006! Congratulations Anders. Please provide your mail address and current size. 

(photo collection Luc Rijckaert) 
"Above my picture of the TB Threewheeler Cyclecar. I found this postcard  some years ago. As the registration number starts with TB, this could well be a works "press" picture!"  Luc
Saturday, 23 April 2016 Attention: open in a new window. Print E-mail

A next generation of Friday Ladies

Element SelectionFriday lady_t_ford-470

Last Sunday's article about the Beforty rally produced a lot of response. Also messages from people who's (grand-) children actually get the chance to drive in old cars. A thing we want to encourage.
John Memmelaar from Oakland, US sent us a very proud email showing his 13 year daughter who restored a Model T and learnt to drive it properly. Don't worry too much for an encounter with this junior speeder on the road, so far she's only practising in her father's backyard. (editor: for once and with great hesitation we add the old American saying  "Don't try this at home")  
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Another girl (&boy) Friday picture comes from Australia, sent by Min Innes-Irons.
"We recently had a 4-day rally and had 3 to 5 young adults attend - with two that did a lot of driving in various cars - and they really enjoyed themselves and want to return to future events.  The "common thread" is the wonderfull cars that are being driven. The big question is how to include the younger generations to have fun within the xcar clubs and their events. We have discussed concessionary memberships to make the next generation's annual memebership more affordable while studying. "  Editor: thanks a lot John, thanks a lot Min for sending in your photos and ideas. If there's more, just let us know.
Friday, 22 April 2016 Attention: open in a new window. Print E-mail

Throwback Thursday: 'The Café Mystery' solved after 11 years!

Royal-Star-1907-limousine-3Very frequently we publish a mystery and very frequently you lot come up with the correct answer. However, sometimes it takes a bit longer, like the solution to this Café Mystery dating back from January 2005, eleven(!) years ago. Ariejan Bos decided to have a look at all our (un)solved mysteries and after a lot of research he came up with the correct answer to this one. It's none of the makes already mentioned back in 2005, but it's a Belgian made Royal Star dating from 1907. Royal Star has always had those sloping louvres as can be seen on this picture of a Royal Star with an identical radiator pictured at the stand of Dutch importer van Genderingen at the 1907 RAI-exhibition in Amsterdam.

Earlier text (and updates):
Hans Waldeck (member of the Dutch car history club 'Conam') sends this unidentified Café 'taxi' from around 1910. The licence is known to have been on the name of a Mr. N. Peereboom from Oosthuizen, a village just north of Purmerend that was known for its cattle market. It is not known if he was the owner of 'Café de Tuinbouw'. Mr. Waldeck suggests the car can be an Austin, a Pipe or even a Laurin & Clement, but his gut feeling says it is probably none of those.... (photo courtesy Conam; click for more detail)
Edit.: Note the 'backward leaning' louvres and characteristic headlamps with extra inside lenses. What is your opinion? Info*

Update I: Wiggo Carlsen from Norway writes that these backleaning louvres are like with the 1911 Olds louvres. However the form of the hood is quite different.

Update II: Triggered by the earlier remarks about the louvres Hans Waldeck found in 'Schweizer Autos' by Ernest Schmid a photo of a Lucerna landaulette 1907/09 with Aster 4 cylinder engine. The car is showing great similarities, also in the bonnetshape.

Update III by Hans Compter:"Pre World War-I German, French and Belgian made cars were quite strongly represented in the Netherlands, especially during the first decade. A Pipe therefor would be a candidate were it not that all those cars' radiators had a small elevation on their centre tops. I don't see that feature on this car. The brass acytelene generator and brass headlights appear to be Riemann. The wide flat radiator and leaning louvres all correspond with a 4 cylinder German Scheibler of about the 1905-1906 period, type 24/30 or 35/40PS. The shortlived Scheibler cars were made in Aachen (Aix-de-la-Chapelle) just across the Dutch southern Limburg border. They were expensive quality cars made between 1900 and 1907. After that a newly formed company continued to make the Mannesmann trucks and buses until the beginning of 1928. The only other car which virtually has the same wide radiator and 12 spoke wheels was the Belgian Fondu but none of my Fondu-cars photos show the leaning louvres. The coachwork on this car looks to be from a coachbuilder and with the former Dutch owner living north of Amsterdam it could very well be a Schutter body (Schutter & van Bakel). (see also Günther Schnuer "Der Automobilbau in Aachen" (1896-1928) (Edition Euregio). I have never seen a Dutch importer's advertisement offering the Swiss Lucerna, only Martinis and Pic Pics."
Thursday, 21 April 2016 Attention: open in a new window. Print E-mail

PWC Workshop: making new valves for a 1905 Peugeot

Part of our beloved hobby is the restoration/ maintanance of your old motorcar. Just recently we have started a series of  repair projects under the name "PreWarCar Workshop". 1905 Peugeot_on_bridge-150In this PreWarCar Workshop report we would like to show you the making of new inlet and exhaust valves for a 2 cylinder 1905 Peugeot Type 125. 

In this case, I've had 2 broken inlet valves last season (one was on the magnificent 100 miles of Amsterdam rally), and my repair job on the first one was not good enough to my liking so I've decided to really solve the problem, and for the pleasure of the viewers write this article about it.

From a previous project, I had a box of brand new inlet and exhaust valves laying around from a 2004-new Scania R500 V8 truck. Not only are the valves a very close match to the original Peugeot valves, I also figured that if they can pull 50 tons of GVW up the Alps, they can probably get me around as well.milling machine-150

Because the valve stems have a stepped diameter, I couldn't hold it close enough in the lathe chuck to machine it without chatter (these valves are glass hard). And since I don't have a circular grinder, I had to make a custom collet to hold these valves and it worked perfectly.

valve lathe-120Summary of the proces:
I cut the valve head to diameter and seat angle, cut the stem to exact length, reamed the guides for the new diameter, made new spring retainers for the original Scania clamps and then I hand ground the 4 new valves in their old seats.

Since I still wanted to have a spare set, just in case, I decided to also make 1 valve guide extra for the old set of valves and keep this with me in the car. The making of that part is included in the photo album.New valves_installed-120

After quite a long test drive, I am very happy to say that the car drives like new again!
For the machining report, please visit my photo album.

Work photos & text by Jos van Genugten
Wednesday, 20 April 2016 Attention: open in a new window. Print E-mail

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