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What is this car?

Author: Brian Atkinson Thursday, 19 October 2017

What is this car?I have been trying to identify the make of this car my father owned in about 1950 but without success. From the registration format I believe it to be pre-war. (OV 7554 registered in Birmingham) Can anyone identify it?

1903 Photo from Southern Rhodesia

Author: Andre van de Loo Friday, 20 October 2017

1903 Photo from Southern RhodesiaThis lovely early motoring scene in Southern Rhodesia  came from the photo album of Derek Rausch, a friend and former member of the B.S.A. Police and is of Henry Pratt and family. Pratt was his great grandfather on his mother’s side, and was the original owner of Duly’s Bicycle shop in Salisbury, Rhodesia. Duly Motors became the Ford dealers nation wide. The motor cycle is believed a Wanderer, as two of these motor cycles of similar age remained in the hands of a private collector in the country at least until the 1980's. The passenger carrying trailer is an interesting addition to this lovely picture. Seated in the trailer is Lily Stuttaford. Her family were the owners of a chain of large department stores throughout Southern Africa. This photo comes to you through Peter Huson.

The Ellis Journey

Author: LK Friday, 20 October 2017

The Ellis Journey

The Weekend of 30th June – 1st July 2018                                     
The De Dion Bouton Club UK cordially invites you to take part in the weekend event starting with the participants Vehicle Display on Saturday 30th June from noon to 4.00pm and an Evening BBQ at The Norton Park Hotel near Winchester. Sunday 1st July at 8.26 am we re-enact the historic 5th July 1895 journey by pioneer automobilist the Hon Evelyn Ellis (Evie) and recorded by his passenger Frederick Simms. Their route was on the unpaved Old London Coaching Road from Micheldever Station to Evie’s riverside home in Datchet. They drove his newly acquired 1895 French left hand drive Panhard et Levassor Petroleum Motor Carriage in contravention of the law at a speed in excess of 4 miles per hour and without an attendant walking in front with a red flag.
This re-enactment is a non-competitive event of approximately 48 miles(24 miles for pedal cycles)  and is open to all makes and types of 2, 3 or 4 wheeled vehicles built up to 31st December 1904. Entry vehicles can be powered by Petroleum, Spirit, Steam, Electric and including pedal cycles and other horseless mechanical road transport with or without motor power.

The Start and Finish. 
The oldest and least powerful vehicles will start first from The Norton Park Hotel which is located 3 miles from the original Journey start of Micheldever Station. The first vehicles will leave the hotel at 8.26 am (pedal cycles will start at 8.26am from the White Lion Antiques, coffee stop just outside Hartley Wintney) (which is the same as Ellis’s start time of 9.26am 1895 GMT or solar time) and follow the Old London Coaching route as far as practical passing The Hon Evelyn Ellis’s house “Rosenau” (now “Woolacombe”). Vehicles arriving at the Datchet Green before the punctual arrival time of 4.40 pm will be awarded with an Ellis Journey Finisher’s Medal. The finish is a carnival atmosphere with Jazz on Datchet Village Green. Vehicles arriving after 4.40 pm will be classed as non-finishers. Road signage and detailed route map and instructions will be provided. 

The headquarters hotel is the 4 star Norton Park Hotel, Sutton Scotney, Nr Winchester, Hampshire SO21 3NB we have limited number of rooms allocated at a special rate please contact Emma Hurst, Cluster Events Manager Tel 01962 763008 Email This e-mail address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it and quote reference “The Ellis Journey”.
 You are responsible for your own Hotel bookings and settle your own accounts.
Parking for cars and trailers at start. 
Parking for entered vehicles and trailers are available at the Norton Park Hotel in a designated area (please do not park in the hotel guests car parks.) 
Transport & parking for cars & trailers at Datchet 
We are able to offer overnight parking for cars & trailers in Datchet close to the finish on Saturday night. We can also offer transport back to the Norton Park Hotel on Saturday. Overnight parking in Datchet and one person transport back to the Norton Park Hotel £36.00 payable at the time of booking to the De Dion Bouton Club UK / The Ellis Journey
 Entry Information 
Details of the event Saturday and Sunday. 
Saturday 30th June A static participants Vehicle Display in the afternoon from 12.00 noon to 4.00 pm will be held in the grounds in front of the Norton Park Hotel from 12.00 noon – 4.00pm (for visitors information please can you place a board on your vehicle with interesting history and details about your vehicle) this display will be for the public and press to view the vehicles taking part, (this is at no extra cost to the participants). 
Saturday Evening BBQ a group barbecue has been arranged at the Norton Park Hotel at £22.00 per person payable at the time of entry booking to the De Dion Bouton Club UK / The Ellis Journey.
Sunday 1st July The re-enactment of The Ellis Journey will start after breakfast at 8.26 am from The Norton Park Hotel stopping on route at Micheldever Station for Photos and near Hartley Wintney for coffee /tea and finishing with Jazz on the Green in Datchet Village. Road signage and detailed route map and instructions will be provided. A luggage van service is available from the start to the finish. 
Event Entry Form. 
An event entry form is included with this pack please complete all sections Sign and return as soon as posable all entries have to be received before closing date of 1st May 2018 with payment and photo of your vehicle to Lawrie Smith at the address shown on the booking form. 
Presentation Gifts. 
All participants crossing the start line within one hour of the official start time of 8.26am will receive a starter’s commemorative gift. Crossing the start line after 9.26 am will be deemed a nonstarter. 
All participants finishing on Datchet Village Green before the official punctual finishing time of 4.40 pm precisely will receive a punctual arrival medal. All arrivals at Datchet Village Green after 4.40 pm will be deemed as non-finishers.
Period Dress
This is a fun event with a lot of the general public seeing us at the start, on route and at the finish so we would encourage you and your passengers to wear period dress, if dressing up is not for you perhaps just a Bowler or Top hat

The De Dion Bouton Club UK Membership. 
This event is organised by the Dion Bouton Club UK. If you are not already a member we would welcome you to join before the closing date of 1st May 2018 as you can benefit from a reduction in your entry fee. You do not need to own a De Dion Bouton Cycle or powered vehicle, enthusiast members are very welcome to join, an application form  can be download  from the club’s web site please return the completed joining form and fees to Steve Burt at the address shown on the form. 
Event Application Rejection. 
The De Dion Bouton Club UK reserve the right to reject any application if it is considered that the vehicle being entered was not built up to 31st December 1904 or for any other reason it considers to be so serious to warrant rejection, in this situation the De Dion Bouton Club UK decision is final.
Payment and Return Payment
All event fees, transport costs, BBQ costs and any other costs must be paid to the De Dion Bouton Club UK (DDB) before the 1st May 2018. Refunds will be made if an entrant cancels and notifies the organisers in writing before the 1st May 2018 or if the organisers cancel the event at any time.     
Acknowledgement of the risks of taking part in a non-competitive public road event. 
In the spirit of the friendly nature of the event, participants agree to hold the organisers and their helpers harmless in all respects and accept responsibility for themselves, their passengers, their helpers and their vehicles which must be in a roadworthy condition. 
Participants must read and understand the entry form and this accompanying Entry Information sheet before signing the entry form.
Entry Forms 
Please send in your entry form as soon as posable as entry numbers are limited 
Only signed Entries Forms will be accepted.


Author: notsocoote Monday, 16 October 2017

MODEL `B`1932 Model`B` we restored this  car 1987/88 I have owned this car ever since 


Author: Steve Bousfield Tuesday, 17 October 2017

AtalantaRe Today's Prewar Car,
Here is Motor Magazine's Road Test Data Panel for the Atalanta V12 dating from July 4 1939

The Lozier Gathering, Atlanta GA

Author: Mike Turner Wednesday, 18 October 2017

The Lozier Gathering, Atlanta GA

Seven Loziers of the 30 that survive were invited to this years Concours de' Elegance held in Atlanta Georgia, Sept. 30th and Oct. 1st.

The Loziers in attendance were as follows:

1909 Model H Briarcliff touring, Jeff Chattin owner

1910 Model J Meadowbrook roadster, Corky Coker owner

1911 Model 46 Briarcliff touring, Gilmore collection

1911 Model 51 Briarcliff touring, Fred Hoch owner

1913 Model 77 Montclair touring, Mike Turner owner

1914 Model 77 Montclair touring, Andy Oldham owner

1914 Model 84 roadster, Todd Lozier owner

This was the largest Lozier gathering since the factory closed in 1915!


1913 Model 77 Montclair Touring

Author: Mike Turner Thursday, 19 October 2017

1913 Model 77 Montclair Touring

These are photos of our original 1913 Lozier touring.  Other than a repaint and newer tires this Lozier is original.  The top is worn, but still has the side curtains made and patented in March 1912.  The label says Jiffy Curtain Company, Chicago Ill.  It was found in a barn in White Sulphur Springs Montana in the late 1940s.  It spent many years in a museum in Virginia City Montana.  It was sold at an auction in 1999 and became ours in 2001.

It was part of the "Lozier Gathering" at the Atlanta GA Concours de' Elegance, Sept 30th and Oct. 1st.  There were 7 Loziers in attendance.  The Loziers ranged from 1909 thru 1914.  This was the largest gathering of Loziers since the factory closed.  There are about 40 Loziers left, with 30 in running condition.  The Loziers came from WA State (2), New Jersey, GA (2), Ohio, and Maine.


Researching a c1904 PICCOLO in Western Australia

Author: A John PARKER Monday, 16 October 2017

Researching a c1904 PICCOLO in Western AustraliaGreetings - this c1904 PICCOLO was used on a farm here in Western Australia about this time last century but nothing of it remains today. AND it is the only one we know of that came to our State in Australia. We did not have any dealerships selling the marque here that we can find after 15 years of research. It puzzles us where it came from. Sadly, this is the best photo the family has of the car - but it seems to have been very like the c1904 blue one beng restored in Norway these days.  Any help you can give me would be much appreciated.

Unidentified car

Author: John Rampling Wednesday, 11 October 2017

Unidentified carOld photo taken in Barnstaple about 1930 possibly.

Largest swap meet in New- Zealand

Author: Kevin Atkinson Tuesday, 10 October 2017

Largest swap meet in New- Zealand
The largest swapmeet in New Zealand is held in Canterbury at the Vintage Car Club every October.
New Zealand has a real eclectic mix of vehicles, some American,some British, with a smaller smattering of continental European so you never know what you’ll find.
This year there were the usual stall and trailers full of assorted treasures plus no shortage of cars for sale, including a few interesting projects. 
Perhaps the 39 Buick might appeal, or if you want something smaller the Morris 8 might be more to your taste.

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