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An Alfa Romeo and Zagato Mystery

Today, the search resumed for a car that we first identified in 2012: an Alfa Romeo 8C. We recently received an email from a consultant for Zagato, Italy, containing new information about the car, along with a request for our assistance in continuing their investigation.

Attached is an image of an Alfa 8C Monza with s/n 2111038. It was built in ’37 and fitted with a Zagato body. The car competed in the Mille Miglia with race number 145. It was subsequently fitted with a fascinating new aerodynamic body and was exhibited at the Zagato or Alfa Romeo stand at the Milan Auto Show (April ’37). Shortly thereafter, it was transformed once again into a “standard” 8C 2300 Monza. It competed in the Mille Miglia again in 1938, this time with race number 150. From that point onwards, its history becomes unclear.

 

We are trying to determine whether the car shown in this picture, which we published earlier (and which appears to feature Zagato coachwork), is indeed s/n 2111038, or whether it represents a different car.

This “should” be an Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with s/n 2111027. It was originally an 8C Spider Corto that competed in the Spa 24 Hours in ’32. It was later transformed into an aerodynamic coupé, and subsequently into an aerodynamic roadster.

The question is: does the car in this picture represent “2111038”, or are we in fact referring to another car? Dear Alfa Romeo and Zagato experts, can anyone assist us?

 

The Milanese Leap Day Mystery we originally published in 2012 can be found here.

 

Originally published on 22 September 2020

 

Published:
Wednesday March 25th, 2026
Jack Braam Ruben
26 March, 11:13
027 today
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Jack Braam Ruben
26 March, 10:31
It would be nice to get more information. I have owned # 027 for 25 years now. Provenance will remain the key word in our hobby.
One picture shows the car that won the 1932 Spa 24 hours (# 053) rebodied as a Coupe by Touring. # 027 arrived in 2nd place and was rebodied as a Coupe as well but by Zagato. Quitte a coincidence, the cars are standing side to side. Both were rebodied to their original specs. Fortunately the great Touring body is still alive. The Zagato Coupe body was lost and received yet another (3rd) body apparently again by Zagato. I see too many differences. You would think these are two different bodies. Would love to see the 2.9 with the 3rd Zagato version of the body of #027 and to hear if some of the original panels would still be available. JBR

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Mike Thomas
22 September 2020, 15:36
Whilst on the subject of missing Alfa Romeo 8c's, in August 1956 an almost identical vehicle to that illustrated but with a beautiful carvel tulip wood body and two dicky seats was available for the princely sum of £800 at a garage in Bromley, Kent. Having myself just acquired a 1930 Aston Martin International for £410 unfortunately I was spent out. I've often wandered what happened to it and scanned historic automobile records without success -
hopefully it survives. Does anyone know ?
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Mrs. Mary Frances Humphris
05 March 2024, 16:20
My father Mr. Jack Hayward purchased the Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 with registration EYL 137, chassis 2111027, (as shown in the photo) in the 1950s for £495. I have a picture of the advertisement. He then spent many years restoring it to its original body, however, sadly he passed away in 2001 and the car was sold at auction. It is now located in Europe and has been fully restored. Again I have pictures of what it looks like now.
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Benjamin Ord
25 March, 00:03
I am Jack Haywards grandson, son of Mary who's comment I am replying to, our family genuinely had this car in our possession (well because of the long-term dedication of my grandad) who finally proved that this car was the long lost alfa romeo... hard to believe I know... I couldn't believe it either but... ???? but if you want to know more, let me know.
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Stew Baylis
19 September 2020, 10:50
EYL137 This number still attached to 1938 Red 3013cc Alfa according to DVLA . Records last updated 2009 So still around.
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Yannai Tobi
17 September 2020, 22:16
It seems to me that these are two different bodies. The wings on the Zagato car 2111038 have a 'ridge' or a pointed section at the highest point (best seen in the front image), both front and rear wings. The other car, 2111027 seem to have wings which are completely round.
The doors on the Zagato car are considerably smaller than on the other car.

An interesting coincidence which draw my attention to this issue - it so happens that I have some of the original panels from car number 211107, that were not used when the body was fitted on the 8C2900 car 412011. See photo of the nice and unique louvered sill cover with the oil tank neck.
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Chanh Le Huy
15 September 2020, 19:57
Hello all, Maybe an element of response is that the body in 2111038 at the 1937 Milano Salone and 2111027 after that show is the same. That body is now with 8C 2900 A 412011. A side to side photo comparison between 2111038 (left) and 2111027 IMO gives a good hint.
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