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Vera's car catches fire and she flies away (update: 1903/4 Renault?)

In 1901, three wealthy motorists, Frank Hedges Butler, his daughter Vera and the Hon. Charles Rolls, had proposed a motor tour, but this was cancelled when Vera's Renault 4.5 caught fire. The lady arranged a balloon flight with the distinguished professional aeronaut Stanley Spencer, as a distraction.

Over a glass of champagne during the subsequent voyage, passing near Sidcup in Kent, they agreed that an Aero Club should be formed and after landing this was done without delay. Due no doubt to the presence and personality of Vera Butler, it was uniquely - for the time - agreed that it be open "equally to ladies and gentleman, subject to election". And so The Royal Aero Club was born. Rolls was granted aviator's certificate No. 1 and every weekend, weather permitting, he and his friends would be seen at The Hurlingham Club ready to ascend in balloons.

The picture shows Vera in her second Renault, an 8HP model, in 1902 and you can read her impressions of it HERE. Had she been in London last sunday, she would have been proud to see how the sport of ballooning has blossomed when 40 brightly coloured hot-air balloons drifted across the city at sunrise to celebrate the fiftieth anniversary of the British Balloon and Airship Club and also raise money for The Lord Mayor's charities.

 

Text & pictures Robin Batchelor.

 

Originally published: June 11, 2015

 

Published:
Sunday November 7th, 2021
Jowsey Edwin
08 November 2021, 10:00
We have a 02 reno and it doesn't have curved dumb irons we have noticed some do some don't, ours is a 1902 8hp
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 19:14
The new 8hp Renault was described in November 1901 in La France Automobile (and in January in The Autocar). Calculated on the basis of a line drawing in this article and the wheel size of 24,5” the chassis length was 2.70m, very close to the type L chassis dimension given by Gilbert Warning. The accompanying photo of the car (uploaded in the 'share photos' department) shows that it is virtually identical to Miss Butler's car, also in size and including dumb iron shape. Given the fact that she had to build up some experience with the car, had to write the article and have it published indicates that she must have bought the car already many months before the publishing date of this issue of The Car.

http://www.prewarcar.com/prewar-my-prewarcar/spot-a-pre-war-car/veras-renault-car-026502.html
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 14:34
The 1902 models of Renault with the 8Hp De Dion Engines were the Type G and Type L. The difference was in length of the chassis (Type G: 2.50mtr / Type L: 2.74mtr)
According to the photograph of the article, the dumb irons are longer and not curved down as on the 1902 Type G as Andrew HD noticed, and the body seems longer then the Tonneau fitted on the Type G, so it's most likely the 1902 Type L, powered by a 8HP De Dion Bouton engine, as the article is from september 1902.

(to be 100% sure, we should have more information)

Gil Warning. Holland
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 14:18
Nicely done, but does the 3rd September really count as mid 1902, Ariejan ?
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 13:23
Fascinating article and photos, great reading, except the time line seems a bit off.
1901 ...motor tour car fire
Article with car written 1902
Car in photo/article a 1903/4 ?
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 11:43
Nice article and nicely documented! Referring to the remark of mr. Davies, I guess it is not very likely to show a 1903-1904 model in a mid-1902 magazine. Moreover Miss Butler clearly states that she is driving the new model for 1902. Checking on the dumb irons in 1902, some indeed have the short and curved ones, but many (or perhaps most?) have similar ones as Miss Butler's car. However, I wasn't able to trace back the systematics in this. Maybe a Renault expert knows more?
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 10:32
It also looks quite similar to the De Dion-Bouton 6 hp Model Y Four seater rear-entrance tonneau , I fond in one of the ad's
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 08:50
A most interesting article Robin and excellent pictures.
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Unknown
12 June 2015, 08:33
Just a quick note on the date of the car, i believe its a 1903/4 model as dumb irons wrong for a 1902, they are shorter and curve down! just info only

thanks Andrew HD
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