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What is it? Quiz #373
It's an American car for a change. A fine veteran tourer with rear entrance we suppose. Not telling you if we're looking at a one, two or more cylinder car. One thing is sure this company made one cylinder cars during their full life span. But we understand they also produced two and four cylinder models. Their name has a great fame up to this day, but that's only the name and not connected at all with the cars. The advertising slogan they used is quite interesting as well. Where others underlined quality, cost, endurance or similar, this make emphasized on style and fashion. In this respect they were half a century ahead of their time. Well over to you. Give us the Marque, the Year and the Model of the car depicted and add any trivial knowledge relevant to this car. Not only to make your editor happy, also to give yourself an edge to other competitors who may come with the same basic facts as you do.
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Friday June 27th, 2014
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Unknown
30 June 2014, 03:58
1903 YALE Model A, 2 cylinder, 10/12 HP, chain drive, planetary transmission, 2 speeds and reverse. Brown-Lipes differential, McCanna oiler. Price: $1750. After lots of testing, actual auto production started late 1902. Last auto production: December 1905. HP increased in 1904 and 1905 to 14 HP and 16 HP. 4 cylinder added in 1905. Made by Kirk Manufacturing Company of Toledo, Ohio, and later Consolidated Manufacturing Company company also produced the famous Yale bicycles, Snell bicycles, Yale motorcycles (one and two cylinder), all of which continued production after the auto company closed. Ezra E. Kirk was the principal force of the company, but car was designed by George Trout. Ezra and his brother Edward had many other ventures going, and auto production may not have been sufficiently profitable. Most used slogan: The car with the doubt and the jar left out.
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Unknown
29 June 2014, 22:37
Great photo. The car is a 1902 Yale built by the Kirk Manufacturing Co in Toledo, Ohio. The advertising slogan they used most in 1902-3 was "The car with the jar and the doubt left out".
Keep up the great work!
Chris Paulsen
McPherson, Kansas, USA
Jury member/judge
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Keep up the great work!
Chris Paulsen
McPherson, Kansas, USA
Jury member/judge
Unknown
29 June 2014, 22:31
The car is a 1902 Yale, equipped with a two cylinder engine. But history of that particular car/picture/owner is well described online:
http://www.marybakereddylibrary.org/research/yale
including the fascinating fact the owner bought it to desensitize his horses!
Google even tells you it’s the “Beau Brummel of the roadâ€, but online you can’t find that it’s “the prettiest tourer that ever dashed down a country road –a flash of gold and blue, whizzing by with no more noise than a mere musical whirring of the wheelsâ€
Nor that it supposedly came “with a full ounce of continuous power for every ounce of weightâ€
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http://www.marybakereddylibrary.org/research/yale
including the fascinating fact the owner bought it to desensitize his horses!
Google even tells you it’s the “Beau Brummel of the roadâ€, but online you can’t find that it’s “the prettiest tourer that ever dashed down a country road –a flash of gold and blue, whizzing by with no more noise than a mere musical whirring of the wheelsâ€
Nor that it supposedly came “with a full ounce of continuous power for every ounce of weightâ€
Unknown
29 June 2014, 11:33
"Powerful but not ponderous - a happy medium between the cheap runabout and an unwieldy racing machine": such was the description in a contemporaneous ad by the Kirk Manufacturing Company for this 1903 12hp 2 cylinder Yale touring car (or better: runabout with detachable tonneau body). The company produced cars between between 1902 and 1905, at first with 2 cylinders, in their last year also with 4 cylinder engines.
According to Georgano the first Yale had a 1 cylinder engine, but Beverly Rae Kimes' standard catalog only mentions 2 cylinder engines for all Yale models except for their model F in 1905, which had a 4 cylinder engine. Also the Cycle and Automobile Trade Journal of April 1903 describes the Yale as having a 2 cylinder engine. In my opinion Georgano's 1 must be a typographical error, as 2 cylinder engines aren't even mentioned.
Although Yale shares the name with a well-known key lock firm, there is no connection at all between the firms.
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According to Georgano the first Yale had a 1 cylinder engine, but Beverly Rae Kimes' standard catalog only mentions 2 cylinder engines for all Yale models except for their model F in 1905, which had a 4 cylinder engine. Also the Cycle and Automobile Trade Journal of April 1903 describes the Yale as having a 2 cylinder engine. In my opinion Georgano's 1 must be a typographical error, as 2 cylinder engines aren't even mentioned.
Although Yale shares the name with a well-known key lock firm, there is no connection at all between the firms.
Unknown
28 June 2014, 21:38
Dear Prewarcar-Team,
Fortunately, I finally found the time to write some lines, here my solution to Quiz #373:
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1903/1904 „Yale“ Touring Car, built by the Kirk Manufacturing Company (1901-1905) in Toledo, Ohio.
They offered a range of three different sizes, sold from $ 800 to $ 2.500 (24-28 hp), with mid mounted, flat-one-, two- and four-cyl.-engines, two speed transmission. Body either as a 4-5 seater tonneau or a sporty two-seater.
The Yale was advertised as "the simplest, safest and most economical touring car made in America.", „in outline, style and appearance, no other car, at anything like the price, can approach it“.Â
The claim was:
„A car with the doubt
and the jar left out“
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With best regards and greetings from the home-village of the german wine-queen
fritz
jury-member
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Fortunately, I finally found the time to write some lines, here my solution to Quiz #373:
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1903/1904 „Yale“ Touring Car, built by the Kirk Manufacturing Company (1901-1905) in Toledo, Ohio.
They offered a range of three different sizes, sold from $ 800 to $ 2.500 (24-28 hp), with mid mounted, flat-one-, two- and four-cyl.-engines, two speed transmission. Body either as a 4-5 seater tonneau or a sporty two-seater.
The Yale was advertised as "the simplest, safest and most economical touring car made in America.", „in outline, style and appearance, no other car, at anything like the price, can approach it“.Â
The claim was:
„A car with the doubt
and the jar left out“
****
With best regards and greetings from the home-village of the german wine-queen
fritz
jury-member
Unknown
28 June 2014, 02:34
Previous Winner of Quiz #300
The car is a 1903 Yale Touring car built by The Kirk Manufacturing Company in Toledo, Ohio. It most likely has the water cooled, flat 2-cyl engine which produced 10hp and was priced at US$1500 when new. In 1904 three different 2-cyl engines were available, then a 4-cyl option was added for 1905. An ad for this car and a similar 1901 Yale, along with the later (1905) square front Yales can be found here - http://www.american-automobiles.com/Yale.html . They were only built between 1901 and 1905 however Yale did continuing building bicycles and motorcycles after they stopped building cars.
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The car is a 1903 Yale Touring car built by The Kirk Manufacturing Company in Toledo, Ohio. It most likely has the water cooled, flat 2-cyl engine which produced 10hp and was priced at US$1500 when new. In 1904 three different 2-cyl engines were available, then a 4-cyl option was added for 1905. An ad for this car and a similar 1901 Yale, along with the later (1905) square front Yales can be found here - http://www.american-automobiles.com/Yale.html . They were only built between 1901 and 1905 however Yale did continuing building bicycles and motorcycles after they stopped building cars.